Nissin Di622 the Review
Remember my review of Filters Exchange? One of the things I ordered is the Nissin Di622 and this is its review.
The Nissin Di622 is a flash unit for the budget conscious, it is often compared to the Nikon SB-600 and if you are looking to convince yourself with both, the simple answer would be: “The SB-600 costs double the price of a Di622, so if you have a Nikon system and you have the budget, get the Nikon SB-600, it has CLS and when you get an SB-900 in the future, the two will go hand in hand as SB-900 can function in commander mode, paired with the SB-600 as slave is already a basic CLS (Creative Lighting System) setup for Nikon, and guess what? Nikon CLS is effective and the best automated lighting system I know of.”
Now if you are not convinced, or you still want to get a descent flash while not going broke in the process, then go get the Nissin Di622. It’s a powerful flash, has similar swivel functions as the SB and almost similar aesthetics. What’s on the SB’s that’s not on the Di622? The SB’s have LCD display when controlling, it can work with Nikon CLS, better Locking mechanism of the swivel head and again CLS.
Having said that, you may ask; “What are the strong points of the Nissin Di622?”
- It has wireless Slave mode through its photo detector.
- Also has an assist illuminator at low-light conditions to get the proper exposure levels.
- Flash light is quite strong.
- Has swivel head left to right, up and down.
- Has TTL for both Nikon and Canon
- Compatible with Nikon and Canon depending on ordered mount requirements.
- Flash Exposure level can be controlled on camera (depending on type of camera)
- Plastic built but quite sturdy.
- Has built in flash bounce and diffuser
- Can function in Full Manual mode, you can set the Flash strength manually.
- Comes with a flash stand that can also be mounted via a screw on a tripod or flash brackets.
Weaker points of the Nissin Di622:
- No jack for flash triggers like wireless Flash Triggers (Can be modified though to function on flash triggers, but slight soldering and dismantling knowledge is required. Comment if you need the link)
- Weak locking mechanism on the swivel head, especially when adding snoots and diffusers.
- No LCD and cannot work with the Nikon CLS.
- Optical Slave mode works in TTL but has problems when other light source or flash is present. (Accidental Triggering).
- Optical slave mode fails in very sunny weather (can be corrected by adding a dark filter on the optical area).
If you have other observations on this flash unit, please suggest it by commenting and I will gladly test it and add the notes if confirmed. Official Website of Nissin is at www.nissindigital.com and the Nissin Di622 is posted on their site.
I have an SB-600 and have tried the CLS with a friends all-Nikon setup and nothing beats it when you’re on a Nikon System. But if you are a starter, and you want to master Flash control and you are on a tight budget, Nissin Di622 is a winning bet. If you plan to purchase one through Filters Exchange, let them know you got the info here.
Do you need to know more? Comment below and I’ll try to answer all your questions.
Images Courtesy of Modar who was gracious enough to lend us his images.
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Hi Ricky, Not unless your Metz Manual flash is set to trigger at TTL, then it won’t optically trigger the Nissin. However your best bet is to get the cactus radio triggers, then use this to trigger your metz as well as the Nissin, since the New Nissin Di622 can now be radio-triggered using cactus…
Hi, firstly, good job on this informative review. I’m looking for a 2nd slave flash for my Pentax K7/Metz 48 setup and also an on-camera flash for my Canon G11. I plan on getting the canon mount of Di622 and am wondering if my Metz 48(Pentax) can trigger this optically at Manual mode? Many thanks for your help.
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Hi Sorry for the long wait, as you can see we haven’t updated the site yet, we are still pressed with our staff reviews. Anyway to answer your questions.
@Migs:
1) I have a Canon 430EX II, planning to buy Di622 which will serve as my slave. Possible po ba na magfire yung Di622 just using my 430EX II? Or just my built in pop-up flash?
If 430EX II which supports TTL on your camera as well as your pop-up flash, yes you can definitely use the Di622 as optical slave.
2) Is it also possible for the 430EX II to fire just using the pop-up flash?
I don’t think the 430 EX II has a wireless optical capability like the di622, so It won’t be triggered by the pop-up flash…
@Jack:
Have you tried increasing the power of the flash, also check your camera sync-speed. It would be that you might have set the sync to rear curtain which would delay the flash fire a bit. Also you can try adjusting your f-stop number to slow down the shutter a bit. Try these few tips to resolve your problem…
Sir! I have two questions.
1) I have a Canon 430EX II, planning to buy Di622 which will serve as my slave. Possible po ba na magfire yung Di622 just using my 430EX II? Or just my built in pop-up flash?
2) Is it also possible for the 430EX II to fire just using the pop-up flash?
THANKS!
Hi,
I just bought a Nissin Di622. When I try yesterday the unit with my Canon 7d as slave the di622 work but does not seem to be syncronize with the shutter of the camera. I dont see the effect of the flash in the picture.
Somebody know the problem ?
thanks
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@Michael: It will work off-camera via ttl triggering.
@Long: The red glass doesn’t really affect your use of the flash, you can just cover it with something similar to the old glass, or you can get some surplus old covers to cover the broken area…
@benting: TTL means “Through The Lens” that means, the flash will fire depending on it’s gauge of the current metering(measurement) it gets inside the lens which adjust the flash automatically depending on the what the lens “see”. I bet getting two Nissins would be better thank getting one SB-600, but that’s just my personal opinion…
hello newbie here. which do you think is a best buy? two nissin di622 or 1 nikon sb-600? and i really don’t get the meaning of TTL.. thanks! hope for your reply.
my red glass have broken and scattered to pieces…do i need to buy a new flashlight or can change the red glass?
Does anyone know if the Di622 will work with the Canon sx20 IS?? I’ve been looking for an answer everywhere but to no avail.
Cheers
ADMIN
What kind of sync? Adding a flash trigger? Check my old comments, there is a link there for the mod.
Hey!
Can I please have the link to the “how to” on the adding of sync modification thing..? Im gonna buy this one and I will try to mod it, I’de like to get an idéa of how difficult it is..
Please exuse me for my lack of english words, it’s been a while =).
/Cheers
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@Zam: There is one obvious option for you to do this, you can use a flash trigger, that way no light will come from the camera.
A work around which I do without flash trigger, is to set the built-in flash power to the lowest negative value. On Nikon you can access this with the lightning symbol on your user settings screen. That way the light coming from your camera does not really highly impact the subject.
The second method I use is to attach a camera flash extension, I attach it to the camera, attach an external flash to the extension and set that flash to ttl and position it to where I would like it to have an effect on my subject. Then arrange the slaves correspondingly. That way I can position the trigger flash anyway I want.
Let me know if you have further concerns. We will be posting a pseudo-CLS(Creative Lighting System) Using all Nissin Flash line-up in the coming days, we are still working on some of the technical aspects of the site.
I plan to buy Nissin di622 as a slave unit for my nikon d5000, how do I prevent the built in flash that triggers the di622 unit to have any effect on the photo - I want to avoid direct effect of flash straight from camera.
ADMIN
Hi Neo, the di622 built-in diffuser is not really useless, but as built-in diffuser goes, it does diffuse light fairly good, however it still creates harsh shadows.
Id rather use the built-in bounce card for this only that your diffusion distance would be limited. I suggest trying out the Lightsphere or Lightsphere2, I use it personally and I reviewed it here: http://gplz.com/2009/05/gary-fong-lightsphere-2/
my mistake: the built in flash diffuser*
Is it true that the built in flash is not very good?
ADMIN
It will fire but I doubt it will be effective in non-TTL. You can however set your on-board flash to ttl and the Di622 ans SB600 will recognize ttl commands.
The best way to remedy this is to use a flash trigger…
hi,
i have a question regarding the wireless slave mode. will the nissin flash fire when on-camera flash is set to commander mode?
i have an sb-600 which i wirelessly fire with on-board flash and i want another flash to be fired at the same time. the sb-600 is in slave mode and power is set manualy in camera (no ttl). will the nissin fire at the same time as the sb-600?
thank you.
ADMIN
Hi Mel, the di622 will work with your sx10, you must use the built-in flash of your sx10 and set it TTL flash mode. Then set the di622 in slave mode, by long-pressing the mode button… When your sx10’s built-in flash fires in TTL, the di622 will recognize the command and fire too…
Hi. I’m using the di622 for my canon sx10 is. I’m enjoying it so far except for the slave function, which isn’t working. Is there a problem? or it simply won’t work with the sx10?
Thanks!
Sunpak PZ42XN vs Di622…… anyone?
ADMIN
Instead of pics, some guy has already posted a video on you tube. So here are the links to it…
Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6EzCU03ymQ&feature=related
Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VKEvpTPOis&feature=related
Hi, can you tell me how to modify the nissin to trigger like the cactus. Any diagrams or pics on the modification? Thanks.
ADMIN
I’m sorry it won’t trigger through the center pin. No mods yet for pentax.
I tried to use my di622 flash with my pentax k100d (using tape to isolate all the pins except the middle one) but it didn’t work.
Does anyone know if it’s possible to make a small mod that will get the di622 to trigger the flash with the middle pin like other flashes do??
ADMIN
I was concerned with the marker because too dark and it will not work at all. I had better success with visors under direct noon sunlight. I use the taping technique on sunny days not at high noon and sometimes under tree shade…
I used a black marker pen. I fully covered the front element with masking tape(translucent) then shaded it. I was thinking if scotch tape would work too. I will try the visor technique tomorrow.
ADMIN
What marker did you use? Another method is to get a cardboard and make a kind of visor on the top area of the optical sensor side, this will definitely work as compared to masking tape if you don’t have some shade films. make sure if you use masking tape when on slave mode to point the optical sensor directly at the Master flash.
bro, i tried the masking tape technique and tried to shoot during noon but still no luck parin. Any idea?
ADMIN
You don’t need to shade it if you hot-shoe mount it, the shading is when you plan to use it off-shoe in optical slave mode under very bright lighting conditions to prevent non-triggering.
On-shoe, you don’t need shading, the AF-assist is useful under low-light conditions, although I suggest using manual flash settings than depending on the AF-assist, since or if you plan to use AF-assist in normal mode, try and set your ISO at around 400.
You can check Tay Hua for the sunpak flashes, you can order from them too.
Thanks man! Got more mod/tips for nissin flashes? I’m just wondering if the AF assist lamp would still be accurate(if hot shoe mounted) if you have the front element shaded? Where can you buy sunpak flashes by the way? The 285HVs are still out of stock.
ADMIN
Hi Pamela, if you plan to use the Flash with radio triggers then go for the sunpak, if you want to attach the flash to your camera and don’t really plan to go off-shoe most of the time, then the Nissin is a good choice as well. How do you intend to use your flash?
I’m trying to decide between the Sunpak PZ42XN or the Nissin Di622. which one would you recommend?
thanks!
ADMIN
By TTL I mean, you can use the Di622 on Slave mode(not TTL default mode) and trigger it via an external master flash in TTL mode or built-in flash in TTL mode. To Filter optical sensor without opening, you can use old X-Ray films, I prefer the easier route of using a masking tape with dark-marker pen shaded over it and then taped at the front element (the dark-red glass in front of the flash). Hope this answers your question, don’t hesitate to fire away if you need more tips…
Dude, pipho member(demoboi) here. Can you tell me more on how to dark filter on the optical sensor? I think TTL doesn’t work on slave mode, yes your master flash is on slave mode but the di622 is in manual power. Will have to confirm it though.
ADMIN
To all those who contacted me on the contact page regarding the Nissin Di622 being triggered off-cam. Yes it can be triggered optically via TTL, i-TTL or e-TTL. One tip, set your on-cam or built-in flash to TTL and set at negative flash compensation.
To Trigger it using Radio Trigger or RF triggering systems like cactus, you need to modify the Nissin, it can be modified with minor soldering needed.
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Yes, it is great for non-studio use, strong range and quite sturdy. Recycle time is around 5seconds, although would reduce to 3-4sec with a good set of batteries. It is comparable to SB-600 or 8oo even and a good starter Flash…
Since I just need a flash for non studio use and would not have a need to have it as a slave unit, would this off brand work well for my application?
I am an amateur photographer at best. Thanks for the review.